Comments on: Equality Need not Mean Sameness

By: catch

catch — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:59:07 +0000

If “Equality between the sexes simply means that men and women have equal rights, responsibilities and opportunities” then things such as chivalry and “ladies first” should be eliminated, since women should have the same “responsibilities” to sacrifice for men as men do for women. That is why feminists are due no chivalry or other preferred treatment usually reserved for ladies.

By: Danny

Danny — Thu, 06 May 2010 21:06:26 +0000

Ann:
” You can´t change society without being prepared to loose something too.”

Now if only feminists would practice this as much as they preach it at men…

By: Lisa

Lisa — Thu, 06 May 2010 03:27:11 +0000

It’s much easier for a young girl to be interested in “masculine” hobbies, ask any tomboy.

Even though females can get away with masculine traits in other aspects of life, they can’t do it in dating and relationships, like asking for dates, paying for dates, expressing feelings of commitment, etc. If they do, they’re seen as “easy”, “desperate”, or “hooker” or worst of all, they get punched or even thrown around by the guy.

By: Feminism and chivalry

Feminism and chivalry — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:15:40 +0000

[...] mean that chivalry is dead in a society with gender equality? Not necessarily. If a society equates gender equality with gender sameness, then chivalry is indeed dead. Contemporary feminism usually claims that all differences between [...]

By: Ann Ekman

Ann Ekman — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:42:20 +0000

Dear Pelle!

We have gender equality when any person regardless of her or his gender is able to choose to be and do what he or she likes! We have gender equality when both mens and womens values, priorities and experience is influencing the development of our world equally. I don´t understand why this about being alike or being different is an issue at all! It´s not up to you to tell me to be feminine or masculine or to me to tell you what to be! This fixation on that issue makes me wonder if your agenda is to secure your priviliges that you know, even though you deny this, that you have as being men, traditionally. But things will change, and you want change, and that is a matter of give and take. You can´t change society without being prepared to loose something too.

By: Defining Gender Equality

Defining Gender Equality — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:07:11 +0000

[...] would start making exactly the same choices, even in a society that is completely open-minded. By dropping the criterion of sameness, gender equality becomes much more achievable, and does not limit individual [...]

By: Pelle Billing

Pelle Billing — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:11:46 +0000

Thank you for your comment Silke, and you Michael

By: Silke

Silke — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:04:50 +0000

Absolutely!! “Equality need not mean sameness” - realistic and wise approach… since looking for (the impossible) sameness can only create conflict and separation….. whereas equality in the context of differences includes the notion of “acceptance of the differences” or “equally acceptance of difference”…. the beauty of the differences and - as you said, Michael - the infinite combination of differences creating new nuclear entities. Like it!!!

By: Michael Grove

Michael Grove — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:02:25 +0000

In the context of the fact that I have come to believe that DESTINY IS that which one discovers … IF every opportunity, with which you are faced, IS responsibly acted upon in all humility and that FATE IS what you are faced with if you don’t …

My own views on the entirety of “equality need not mean sameness” and its multitudinous facets and consequences, are based entirely on the idea that ….

1. rights should ONLY be endowed as a consequence of each and every individual assuming responsibility for the his/her’s own ACTIONS of INTEGRITY.

2. within an internetwork of equitable thinking environments.

3. based on a “scaleable” core model of five males and five females and an “executive” quorum of ANY six of that group of ten, be it in any combination between five women & one man and five men & one woman.

By: Bj0rnborg

Bj0rnborg — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:51:09 +0000

I guess I will be the one that disagrees then.

““This is why we need more men to speak out about what is wrong with the male gender role, because it is extremely unlikely that anybody else is going to do it for them.”

Feminists are constantly talking about what is wrong with the male genderroll.

But I agree its time that MEN take control of our own situation, how we are defined, how we want to evolve and free ourselves, not having a gynocentric feminism do it for us. Because they are. Very poorly and unempathically.

This is why we need more men to speak up, not only about what is harmful to men with the male genderroll, but about what is harmful to men with feminism; because its extremely unlikely that feminists will bother with either.

I also agree with Pelle that to accomplish this men need to transcend their genderroll. Wich is an interesting paradox. Yet it is happening all over the place.