Comments on: Gay Men and Feminism

By: IceGiant

IceGiant — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:41:33 +0000

This blog is retarded. Feminism doesn’t label men as oppressors. The system we live in doesn’t give women much options with its limiting mental conditioning. What does that have to do with homosexuality? Homosexual males don’t suffer being called “oppressors.” They suffer being called “FAGGOT.” And it’s usually by OTHER males who are heterosexuals. Cause, as we all know, only “REAL” men are heterosexuals. According to the media (which is catered to white hetero-males) Homosexual males are (somehow) women! And since women are “not much” compared to the chauvinistic male, then gay men are MORE useless cause hetero-males can’t stick them! Wow! Such “lovely logic”!!

I should write my own blog, since clearly this one is lacking in information, logic and most importantly, common sense.

By: Jypz

Jypz — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:14:00 +0000

Just because gay men have a female perspective does not mean that we enlarge our images towards women!… We are different and can only be seen as “gay men” nothing other!.. Point being!. We suffer more than woman! (Not by choice) yet we are associated as being feminist???…. I think the colatteral damage has been done by homophobia!… A subject with more consequences!!!

By: Pelle Billing

Pelle Billing — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:51:44 +0000

Anti-Feminist,

Your assessment of where gay men stand is similar to mine.

I would urge you though to reconsider dividing the field into feminists and anti-feminists. There are feminists and then there are people who care equally about what’s best for both sexes. Feminists may say that they care about both sexes but they only implement reforms for women.

By: Anti-Feminist

Anti-Feminist — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:43:59 +0000

I am a gay and I am quite strongly an anti-feminist, because I support true equality instead of female privileges. I also feel sympathy towards straight males who are oppressed by divorce and custody laws etc.

Most of the gays I personally know, are at least somewhat critical towards feminism or neutral towards it, but I know that some other gays are positive towards feminism. I cannot provide any statistics - and I am not even sure if anti-feminists or feminists are more common among gays. And I think this is also somewhat “context dependent”. On some issues gays and many anti-feminists might agree with (some) feminists, but disagree on many others issues.

By: Pelle Billing

Pelle Billing — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:41:53 +0000

Hi Elias,

Thank you for your kind words. I’m glad you like my work.

However, I don’t think “homosexual commands” are the reason for oversexualization of women. I don’t even know what “homosexual commands” are.

To the extent that women are oversexualized in modern societies, I think it is related to not being allowed to express your inner femininity, and thus you exaggerate your outer attributes instead. But this is far from all women…

By: Elias

Elias — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:43:51 +0000

Pelle:

You bring VERY GOOD POINTS

I am VERY AMAZED that a man has the guts to speak like this

My question is:

Do you think that the OVERSEXUALIZATION OF WOMEN this era are due to homosexual commands????

Do you understand my point?????

I just watched “Sex and The City 2″ and it is just PARANOIC to see how Mr. Big gives Carrie a ring for cheating on him :00000000

Thank you Pelle

By: Matt Boradben

Matt Boradben — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:16:59 +0000

Please don’t call me an oppressor… The male gender isn’t the culprit, the culprit is what the male gender has installed, as values in society. It’s like calling me an oppressive racist just because I’m white. So I’m therefore also oppressing jews…
Oh and you’re wrong. Gay men shouldn’t be feminists. Every fucking one should be a feminist, no specifics.
I consider myself a feminist, a vehement one at that, and I’m gay but I always wondered whether I would be one if I were straight… Oh and you got it wrong people, gay men, on average are more feminist than straight men. 1) They are more open minded. 2) They know about gender roles. 3) Our relationship to women is more equal, friend-like.

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:52:55 +0000

“It is a group that literally has no need for women or to interact with them in any way.’

The ultimate MGTOWs. I once saw - it must have been ten or more years ago - an article in a major women’s magazine in the US - Cosmo? - in which the writer “wondered” if all this gay stuff was just a misogynist ploy on the part of men to evade women’s rightful sexual power. I am sure this writer thought of herself as a feminist and equally sure that masses of feminists would have flayed her alive for such a heretical or maybe just impolitic contention - good for them.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:32:33 +0000

I’ve always thought, that gay men were at least theoretically the ulitimate anti-feminist group. It is a group that literally has no need for women or to interact with them in any way.

By: Pelle Billing

Pelle Billing — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:08:07 +0000

@unomi
“Deva,

Your idea of “responsibility” seems more akin to “collective guilt and punishment”.

Do you also think that all straight people, including women, should be “taking responsibility” for the stoning of gay people in Iran, even if they don’t agree with it?

And why all the talk about the past? Let’s focus on what is happening here and now.”

Very well put, unomi.

@Paddan

That’s a very balanced take on things. We need more perspectives that’s for sure. A main problem with postmodern feminists is that they absolutize their own perspective. If they were open to the whole range of perspectives, then I think that people would be more willing to take a look at the partial truth that they are bringing to the table.