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		<title>By: Pelle Billing</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2009/10/world-economic-forum-blatantly-ignores-men/comment-page-1/#comment-3740</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelle Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Where are the feminists now?"

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where are the feminists now?&#8221;</p>
<p>Good question.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2009/10/world-economic-forum-blatantly-ignores-men/comment-page-1/#comment-3736</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 03:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelle,
Thanks for you reply..... the law then itself should be changed through lobbying as it is unjust in that, being a law for equality, it is itself discrimnatory purely on the basis of gender. It is ridiculous. Where are the feminists now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelle,<br />
Thanks for you reply&#8230;.. the law then itself should be changed through lobbying as it is unjust in that, being a law for equality, it is itself discrimnatory purely on the basis of gender. It is ridiculous. Where are the feminists now?</p>
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		<title>By: Pelle Billing</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2009/10/world-economic-forum-blatantly-ignores-men/comment-page-1/#comment-3731</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelle Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,

I don't think the legislation can be challenged in court. The exeptions to the gender equality law are bundled in the law itself (very clever...). Furthermore, courts in Sweden are much weaker than in the US.

Fortunately, Sweden is now transitioning to a professional army, so military service will become optional or disappear. However, other laws that discriminate against men remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the legislation can be challenged in court. The exeptions to the gender equality law are bundled in the law itself (very clever&#8230;). Furthermore, courts in Sweden are much weaker than in the US.</p>
<p>Fortunately, Sweden is now transitioning to a professional army, so military service will become optional or disappear. However, other laws that discriminate against men remain.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2009/10/world-economic-forum-blatantly-ignores-men/comment-page-1/#comment-3730</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pelle.  How can legislators (and womens groups) in Sweden and Finland possibly defend the exclusion of women for national service on any grounds when there is a non-miiltary alternative for male objectors. What is the point of gender equality legislation when exceptions are made for no good reason other than gender? 
Surely this could be challenged in court</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pelle.  How can legislators (and womens groups) in Sweden and Finland possibly defend the exclusion of women for national service on any grounds when there is a non-miiltary alternative for male objectors. What is the point of gender equality legislation when exceptions are made for no good reason other than gender?<br />
Surely this could be challenged in court</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Davenport</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AlexNY,  I very much appreciate your insight that simply opposing imbalances in gender roles and rules automatically creates an antagonism between "us" and "them."  How much more friendly and avoidant of "zero sum" politics to simply support the benefits of gender neutrality to all parties.  Progress without resentment or potential backlash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AlexNY,  I very much appreciate your insight that simply opposing imbalances in gender roles and rules automatically creates an antagonism between &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them.&#8221;  How much more friendly and avoidant of &#8220;zero sum&#8221; politics to simply support the benefits of gender neutrality to all parties.  Progress without resentment or potential backlash!</p>
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		<title>By: AlexNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, especially about government allowances, I did not know that.

The political power of men's issues advocates is vanishingly small compared to the political power of women's issues advocates.  One way to start changing this is for powerful women's lobbies to realize that freedom of choice for men is a necessary pre-requisite for freedom of choice for women.

In the 1950's women needed equal access to protection under the law before women could make a rational choice to define themselves primarily as direct productive participants in the economy.

Now, Men need equal access to protection under the law before men can make a rational choice to define themselves as primarily as fathers, husbands, or nurturers who contribute indirectly to the economy by supporting others.

How many women and men will choose to define their lives in "non-traditional" ways?  I neither know nor care.  What I know is, until men are free from the bonds of gender roles, women also will continue to be prisoners of gender roles.

In an environment where a man who defines himself as a "father and husband" can expect to be ridiculed by his peers, disdained by the opposite sex, suspected of paedophilia by his neighbours, and completely unprotected by our nation's social and legal institutions ... what sane man would make such a choice?

When men are effectively forbidden from playing a supporting role in society, how can a woman hope to compete for the most coveted economic and political leadership positions, against men who in virtually every case have a spouse dedicated to supporting the man and his effort?

By working tirelessly to demean, diminish, and vilify men, feminism is undermining it's own objectives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, especially about government allowances, I did not know that.</p>
<p>The political power of men&#8217;s issues advocates is vanishingly small compared to the political power of women&#8217;s issues advocates.  One way to start changing this is for powerful women&#8217;s lobbies to realize that freedom of choice for men is a necessary pre-requisite for freedom of choice for women.</p>
<p>In the 1950&#8217;s women needed equal access to protection under the law before women could make a rational choice to define themselves primarily as direct productive participants in the economy.</p>
<p>Now, Men need equal access to protection under the law before men can make a rational choice to define themselves as primarily as fathers, husbands, or nurturers who contribute indirectly to the economy by supporting others.</p>
<p>How many women and men will choose to define their lives in &#8220;non-traditional&#8221; ways?  I neither know nor care.  What I know is, until men are free from the bonds of gender roles, women also will continue to be prisoners of gender roles.</p>
<p>In an environment where a man who defines himself as a &#8220;father and husband&#8221; can expect to be ridiculed by his peers, disdained by the opposite sex, suspected of paedophilia by his neighbours, and completely unprotected by our nation&#8217;s social and legal institutions &#8230; what sane man would make such a choice?</p>
<p>When men are effectively forbidden from playing a supporting role in society, how can a woman hope to compete for the most coveted economic and political leadership positions, against men who in virtually every case have a spouse dedicated to supporting the man and his effort?</p>
<p>By working tirelessly to demean, diminish, and vilify men, feminism is undermining it&#8217;s own objectives.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelle Billing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelle Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Scandinavian nations have completely gender neutral legislation and practices when it comes to leave of absence laws, child custody laws, and child support/alimony laws."

Child custody laws are gender neutral, but their implementation is not.
Monthly child allowances from the government automatically go to the mother.
A father who is not married to the child's mother will only get joint legal custody if she accepts it.

That's the situation in Sweden, the largest Scandinavian country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scandinavian nations have completely gender neutral legislation and practices when it comes to leave of absence laws, child custody laws, and child support/alimony laws.&#8221;</p>
<p>Child custody laws are gender neutral, but their implementation is not.<br />
Monthly child allowances from the government automatically go to the mother.<br />
A father who is not married to the child&#8217;s mother will only get joint legal custody if she accepts it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the situation in Sweden, the largest Scandinavian country.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear not, Pelle Biling.  You have a far more powerful ally than you could possibly imagine.

Despite the fact that the report actively and openly ignores areas where male performance is lacking, nations that top the "women's issues list" are the same nations that top the "men's issues list."

Scandinavian nations have completely gender neutral legislation and practices when it comes to leave of absence laws, child custody laws, and child support/alimony laws.

Look at this table showing the number of years by which women outlive men, ffrom UN World Bank report:

Iceland: 2.1 years
World average:  4.5 years
Japan: 7.1 years

Iceland, with the highest "women's issues" score, has a very low "excess male mortality".
Japan, the industrialized nation with the lowest "women's issues" score, has the largest excess male mortality of all industrialized nations.

So ... if everyone intentionally ignores men's issues and focusses on women's issues, why then do men's issues get resolved at the same time as women's issues?

Who do men have working in their corner?

Answer:  Mathematics is the inexorable force protecting men's rights.  Any freedom do equally participate in any activity which is denied to a man, is an activity that mathematically is imposed upon a woman.  The work is a fixed quantity.  If men are disallowed from performing nurturing/supporting roles, either legally or socially forced into the he-man Rambo view of maleness, mathematically women will  be drawn into the "vacuum" of child care/support roles that men are denied.

Feminists can try all they want.  When social engineering meets with the inflexible rules of mathematics, mathematics wins.

Feminism will embrace masculism, or it will fail.  You don't need to do anything for this to happen.  As long as men continue being diminished, belittled, and vilified by feminist man-haters, women will find themselves dropping out of the race to the top due to exhaustion.  The smart feminist spends as much time talking about how much better men are as fathers and husbands, compared to women, as they do talking about how much better women are as doctors and lawyers.  In both cases, there are millennia of prejudice and bigotry to overcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear not, Pelle Biling.  You have a far more powerful ally than you could possibly imagine.</p>
<p>Despite the fact that the report actively and openly ignores areas where male performance is lacking, nations that top the &#8220;women&#8217;s issues list&#8221; are the same nations that top the &#8220;men&#8217;s issues list.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scandinavian nations have completely gender neutral legislation and practices when it comes to leave of absence laws, child custody laws, and child support/alimony laws.</p>
<p>Look at this table showing the number of years by which women outlive men, ffrom UN World Bank report:</p>
<p>Iceland: 2.1 years<br />
World average:  4.5 years<br />
Japan: 7.1 years</p>
<p>Iceland, with the highest &#8220;women&#8217;s issues&#8221; score, has a very low &#8220;excess male mortality&#8221;.<br />
Japan, the industrialized nation with the lowest &#8220;women&#8217;s issues&#8221; score, has the largest excess male mortality of all industrialized nations.</p>
<p>So &#8230; if everyone intentionally ignores men&#8217;s issues and focusses on women&#8217;s issues, why then do men&#8217;s issues get resolved at the same time as women&#8217;s issues?</p>
<p>Who do men have working in their corner?</p>
<p>Answer:  Mathematics is the inexorable force protecting men&#8217;s rights.  Any freedom do equally participate in any activity which is denied to a man, is an activity that mathematically is imposed upon a woman.  The work is a fixed quantity.  If men are disallowed from performing nurturing/supporting roles, either legally or socially forced into the he-man Rambo view of maleness, mathematically women will  be drawn into the &#8220;vacuum&#8221; of child care/support roles that men are denied.</p>
<p>Feminists can try all they want.  When social engineering meets with the inflexible rules of mathematics, mathematics wins.</p>
<p>Feminism will embrace masculism, or it will fail.  You don&#8217;t need to do anything for this to happen.  As long as men continue being diminished, belittled, and vilified by feminist man-haters, women will find themselves dropping out of the race to the top due to exhaustion.  The smart feminist spends as much time talking about how much better men are as fathers and husbands, compared to women, as they do talking about how much better women are as doctors and lawyers.  In both cases, there are millennia of prejudice and bigotry to overcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Global The Princss of Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global The Princss of Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 04:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] political consensus that gender issues are about women only, which is what has led to UN Women and frightening reports that ignore the very existence of men.  In the 1995 movie The Usual Suspects, the arrested Verbal says about the legendary criminal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] political consensus that gender issues are about women only, which is what has led to UN Women and frightening reports that ignore the very existence of men.  In the 1995 movie The Usual Suspects, the arrested Verbal says about the legendary criminal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UN Women: Discrimination at Its Finest</title>
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		<dc:creator>UN Women: Discrimination at Its Finest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In other words, the very focus areas of UN Women are just as relevant for men, and yet I wouldn&#8217;t recommend holding your breath waiting for UN Men to be formed. Currently there seems to be a broad international political consensus that gender issues are about women only, which is what has led to UN Women and frightening reports that ignore the very existence of men. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In other words, the very focus areas of UN Women are just as relevant for men, and yet I wouldn&#8217;t recommend holding your breath waiting for UN Men to be formed. Currently there seems to be a broad international political consensus that gender issues are about women only, which is what has led to UN Women and frightening reports that ignore the very existence of men. [...]</p>
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