IMO, this topic would be vastly more effective if titled:
Do men or women benefit from Corporations being the norm?

Many corporations like Wal-Mart and IBM ARE larger than ENTIRE countries. These corporations have more money, spies, police/security, etc…

check out:
Meet Your Boss: Robert Gates
Who is deciding your fate?
by Michael Prysner
January 6th, 2010 9:18 PM
Michael Prysner is a veteran of the war in Iraq and an anti-war activist.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/meet-your-boss-robert-gates

quote:
No corporate CEO should be able to send us to kill and die for their own super-profits. ~Michael Prysner

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I do feel the information I provided is relevant…when comments are made on these blogs like “white whore”, “American slobs”, and “Anyone this weak and cowardly is not fit to repoduce”…perhaps a larger view can reveal the other pertinent issues affecting people globally and their gender roles. Knowledge does lead to skillful means. A boy given vaccines from birth, schooled to follow authority, and generally deceived in the real market economy as an adult…does have his work cut out for him…the same is true for women.

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>Don’t you realize that many contries have brainwashed their people into collective armies?

I have opposed both wars in Iraq and the current one in Afghanistan.

I oppose the draft for anyone.

Refusing to have any organized defense at all, though, is extreme.

People have the right to band together to defend themselves and to wage defensive wars.

That is your opionion then. Don’t you realize that many contries have brainwashed their people into collective armies? Individualism is not encouraged, even in America. Check out The Six-Lesson School Teacher
http://www.cantrip.org/gatto.html?seenIEPage=1

When I say…I’ve only recently started to understand the underlying concepts and values behind this type of moral dilemma…is because I used to feel our army is justified in defending our country. Now I see too many people have become sheeple…and that is the norm in “Functioning Societies”

America has a HUGE vested interest in war…as the military industrial complex makes up 20% of our total economy!…always follow the money, if you want a credible take on reality.

When pople are deluded by collectivism…they beleive in greatest good for the greatest numbers. I think even Ken Wilber made the comment…then VIRUSES win.
The war for control involves a war on the mind.

This is a complex issue…and yet SOOOO fundamental. I’ve only recently started to understand the underlying concepts and values behind this type of moral dilemma.

It is not credible that you can’t give a straight forward answer as to what actions are appropriate on the part of one country that’s been invaded by another.

This is a very basic scenario that all functioning societies have to continually face.

“Or would you say that the defender is not fighting for peace, but for control, power, and money?”

This is a complex issue…and yet SOOOO fundamental. I’ve only recently started to understand the underlying concepts and values behind this type of moral dilemma. It really depends on whether or not the defenders are serving collectivism or individualisim…are they defending a democracy or a republic?

Individualism vs. Collectivism Part 1 of 5 (all 5 parts on youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0o2GCT0z4Q&feature=related

If the government wins wars…and people merely serve them…the government can issue or deny rights.

If people win wars…and the governments serve them in this matter…the people can grant or deny rights to the government.

The morality of collectivism is based on numbers…the greatest good for the greatest numbers…and some individuals are sacrificed for the group. And the group is more important than the individual with collectivism…this leads to totalitarianism.

Realistically, groups don’t have right…only individuals have rights.

Individualism is not based on ego. It is based on principle.

Also covered in this series Rights and Responsibilities, Equality and Inequality of law, the Proper Role of Government, Confusing Definitions, Myth of Complication, and Illusion of Opposites.

After watching this series…let me know what you think.

note: here is a link to part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_txYUjMLbtQ
(some part 5 uploads were audio disabled…but I found one with audio…and part 5 is key to these concepts)

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Wars are not fought for peace…wars are fought for control, power, and money.

When one nation invades another for control, power, and money, don’t you agree that the invaded country is right to resist by deploying it’s forces (thus making war against the aggressor)?

Or would you say that the defender is not fighting for peace, but for control, power, and money?

Another point on war…if war is peace-keeping, why not enact the draft?…it is EXTREMELY inhumane how many of our service members have served 2, 3, and even 4 CONSECUTIVE tours of duty in Iraq!

Because it would make it a lot easier for the government to start wars if the draft were enacted.

The only reason the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have lasted so long is because our causaulty rate is so low compared to previous wars.

If we were losing soldiers in Iraq at the rate we lost them in Vietnam, we would have pulled out a long time ago.

If the government had a draft, though, it would be much harder to stop the war.

I’m not advocating the draft.
If the draft were enacted…I would hope men and women would politically oppose war…and the coersion to serve…becasue war is not peace-keeping. I would oppose a draft. Wars are not fought for peace…wars are fought for control, power, and money.

Without the draft people accept that individuals who serve do so voluntarily…and ignore the problems inherent in the military industrial complex…including the possible enacting of the draft.

Former U.S. president Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

quote:
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. ~Dwight D. Eisenhower

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