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	<title>Comments on: Gender and Child Raising</title>
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	<description>Gender Liberation Beyond Feminism</description>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/01/gender-and-child-raising/comment-page-1/#comment-6195</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 17:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to wiggle your safety belt, but I have always held experiential self actualization to be much more important than projection. Much of the failure in human relations can be attributed to defining others by projecting our feelings on them. 

When it comes to Maternal/Paternal instincts, these are rooted in real biological processes that alter both men and women physically during the actual experience.

Projecting maternal love onto an inanimate piece of plastic to appear as cute to an adult, may serve a harsh contradiction and conflict to a new mother suffering post par-tum depression or struggling to breast feed. Particularly when the baby is not as cooperative as a doll. It may further serve to assign shame to that mother rather than allow her to speak openly about her experience and gain the assistance she may need. Being the perfect mother at age 4 does not lead to being the perfect mother at age 24. 

I do agree that it is important to be open accessible and attentive as a parent. How do we achieve this. By projecting or respecting a child. Watching my son in the "play"ground go up and down the stairs 50 times led me to conclude that he wasn't playing he was working at problem solving. I have great respect for his initiative and determination. It is my responsibility to provide him access to overcome his challenges and support and assist his success. For me there is no argument between nurture and nature. It is my responsibility to nurture "his" nature. I cannot understand the full scope of that context, his context without spending as much time as possible with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to wiggle your safety belt, but I have always held experiential self actualization to be much more important than projection. Much of the failure in human relations can be attributed to defining others by projecting our feelings on them. </p>
<p>When it comes to Maternal/Paternal instincts, these are rooted in real biological processes that alter both men and women physically during the actual experience.</p>
<p>Projecting maternal love onto an inanimate piece of plastic to appear as cute to an adult, may serve a harsh contradiction and conflict to a new mother suffering post par-tum depression or struggling to breast feed. Particularly when the baby is not as cooperative as a doll. It may further serve to assign shame to that mother rather than allow her to speak openly about her experience and gain the assistance she may need. Being the perfect mother at age 4 does not lead to being the perfect mother at age 24. </p>
<p>I do agree that it is important to be open accessible and attentive as a parent. How do we achieve this. By projecting or respecting a child. Watching my son in the &#8220;play&#8221;ground go up and down the stairs 50 times led me to conclude that he wasn&#8217;t playing he was working at problem solving. I have great respect for his initiative and determination. It is my responsibility to provide him access to overcome his challenges and support and assist his success. For me there is no argument between nurture and nature. It is my responsibility to nurture &#8220;his&#8221; nature. I cannot understand the full scope of that context, his context without spending as much time as possible with him.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/01/gender-and-child-raising/comment-page-1/#comment-6191</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 03:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dolls can be looked at that way,or they can be looked at as the first child with the little kid being the mother/father which can play into the maternal/paternal instinct which can be very healthy. It isn't necessarily for manipulation and coercion purposes.

Which is why this post is well done,becuase it is open to points like this,that along points like the type of doll or truck.

After the masculine doll might attract the boy more than the feminine truck or generic truck,just as the girl might prefer the toy punch-buggy to the masculine doll or generic doll or maybe the other way around.

Point is when you raise a child like an individual and stay open you leave room for these things,and that's what I like about this article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolls can be looked at that way,or they can be looked at as the first child with the little kid being the mother/father which can play into the maternal/paternal instinct which can be very healthy. It isn&#8217;t necessarily for manipulation and coercion purposes.</p>
<p>Which is why this post is well done,becuase it is open to points like this,that along points like the type of doll or truck.</p>
<p>After the masculine doll might attract the boy more than the feminine truck or generic truck,just as the girl might prefer the toy punch-buggy to the masculine doll or generic doll or maybe the other way around.</p>
<p>Point is when you raise a child like an individual and stay open you leave room for these things,and that&#8217;s what I like about this article</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/01/gender-and-child-raising/comment-page-1/#comment-6189</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 17:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but as a parent I believe there is an important component that is being overlooked. 

The immutable fact is we educate our children to survive and navigate their environments, safely. This fact will always contradict the intention of our ideals.

There is a direct correlation between playing with dolls and never being accused or charged with a gender crime or sex crime in western culture. 

Dolls objectify human form and represent a unidirectional form of communication that can be described as manipulation and coercion. Simply because the doll never responds. Or if it does the response is expressed by the manipulator. It inherently encrypts and programs narcissism into a child. 

Giving a boy a doll to manipulate, dress, undress, fondle, objectify and coerce in the face of western legislation and gender biased laws that represent zero tolerance and no drop prosecution against males is irresponsible. Unless of course you are playing cops and perpetrator and your enacting his arrest after touching the doll.

Dolls are great for role play, especially the kind of role play where one person controls everything. Lets teach that to all our kids.

Thank you very much I'll go with objectifying cars and trucks it offers better mental health as a result.  

If I was the church lady from saturday night live I would be reminding you that 

I-DOL-ATRY spells Saaataan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but as a parent I believe there is an important component that is being overlooked. </p>
<p>The immutable fact is we educate our children to survive and navigate their environments, safely. This fact will always contradict the intention of our ideals.</p>
<p>There is a direct correlation between playing with dolls and never being accused or charged with a gender crime or sex crime in western culture. </p>
<p>Dolls objectify human form and represent a unidirectional form of communication that can be described as manipulation and coercion. Simply because the doll never responds. Or if it does the response is expressed by the manipulator. It inherently encrypts and programs narcissism into a child. </p>
<p>Giving a boy a doll to manipulate, dress, undress, fondle, objectify and coerce in the face of western legislation and gender biased laws that represent zero tolerance and no drop prosecution against males is irresponsible. Unless of course you are playing cops and perpetrator and your enacting his arrest after touching the doll.</p>
<p>Dolls are great for role play, especially the kind of role play where one person controls everything. Lets teach that to all our kids.</p>
<p>Thank you very much I&#8217;ll go with objectifying cars and trucks it offers better mental health as a result.  </p>
<p>If I was the church lady from saturday night live I would be reminding you that </p>
<p>I-DOL-ATRY spells Saaataan!</p>
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		<title>By: Androgynous Parenting?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Androgynous Parenting?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 15:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] register or sign in to remove these advertisements.        First point, What Pelle Billing suggests is actually closer to what I want to do with Samuel  Second point:      find a real man to initiate your son.    My husband will be a good father. I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jay Hammers</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/01/gender-and-child-raising/comment-page-1/#comment-2516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Hammers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Mark, a lot of these idealistic things I hope for like state-sponsored educational programs and education tailored to individual needs are DIFFICULT to implement perfectly.  A first step might be separating boys and girls and going from there.  I tend to think everything can be calculated with enough information, so at some point we should know the best way to get the fairest educational system for the average person.  Maybe.

It would be nice if society stopped judging.  It would make things a lot easier.  But that's not going to happen for a long time, probably never.  I'm starting to realize more and more how flawed human beings are.  We may never get past our flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Mark, a lot of these idealistic things I hope for like state-sponsored educational programs and education tailored to individual needs are DIFFICULT to implement perfectly.  A first step might be separating boys and girls and going from there.  I tend to think everything can be calculated with enough information, so at some point we should know the best way to get the fairest educational system for the average person.  Maybe.</p>
<p>It would be nice if society stopped judging.  It would make things a lot easier.  But that&#8217;s not going to happen for a long time, probably never.  I&#8217;m starting to realize more and more how flawed human beings are.  We may never get past our flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Davenport</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jay,

So, if we tailor education to fit individual needs, do we lose the good that separate classes for the sexes might do?  How would it affect "effeminate" boys or "masculine" girls to be grouped with the opposite sex?  How would you or I as children have reacted to such individuals?  How would you or I have reacted had it been us who were segregated from our same sex classmates?

Any net progress here?  I don't know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jay,</p>
<p>So, if we tailor education to fit individual needs, do we lose the good that separate classes for the sexes might do?  How would it affect &#8220;effeminate&#8221; boys or &#8220;masculine&#8221; girls to be grouped with the opposite sex?  How would you or I as children have reacted to such individuals?  How would you or I have reacted had it been us who were segregated from our same sex classmates?</p>
<p>Any net progress here?  I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Hammers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Hammers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  I mentioned on Reddit that boys and girls should be educated separately due to learning differences and behavioral differences.  Someone else pointed out the following, though:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Equality/comments/aqk5m/genderbased_affirmative_action_do_two_wrongs_make/
Everyone learns differently. Not all boys would learn best in the "boys" class, nor would all girls learn best in the "girls" class.
Proper education should take into account various learning styles and ensure that all students have their needs met.

And I have to agree.  Everyone learns differently and should have an education tailored to them.  But how can we do that effectively?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  I mentioned on Reddit that boys and girls should be educated separately due to learning differences and behavioral differences.  Someone else pointed out the following, though:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/Equality/comments/aqk5m/genderbased_affirmative_action_do_two_wrongs_make/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddit.com/r/Equality/comments/aqk5m/genderbased_affirmative_action_do_two_wrongs_make/</a><br />
Everyone learns differently. Not all boys would learn best in the &#8220;boys&#8221; class, nor would all girls learn best in the &#8220;girls&#8221; class.<br />
Proper education should take into account various learning styles and ensure that all students have their needs met.</p>
<p>And I have to agree.  Everyone learns differently and should have an education tailored to them.  But how can we do that effectively?</p>
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		<title>By: hopeless_case</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopeless_case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelle:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
My take on these questions is that we don’t even need to know the answers to be able to raise a child, as long as we are open to whatever is emerging within the child.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is a beautiful point.

It amazes me how I have never seen it acknowledged in the mainstream media.

It's almost as if they pursue controversy for its own sake.

It is truly satisfying to see so many media outlets lose the competition for attention to the broader internet.

With every newspaper that closes its doors, my heart lightens a little more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelle:</p>
<blockquote><p>
My take on these questions is that we don’t even need to know the answers to be able to raise a child, as long as we are open to whatever is emerging within the child.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That is a beautiful point.</p>
<p>It amazes me how I have never seen it acknowledged in the mainstream media.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as if they pursue controversy for its own sake.</p>
<p>It is truly satisfying to see so many media outlets lose the competition for attention to the broader internet.</p>
<p>With every newspaper that closes its doors, my heart lightens a little more.</p>
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		<title>By: Eivind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eivind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balanced and wise. Good job.

E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balanced and wise. Good job.</p>
<p>E</p>
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		<title>By: Feckless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feckless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a way with words....great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a way with words&#8230;.great post!</p>
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