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		<title>By: T. Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/05/how-misguided-feminism-prevents-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-6666</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 20:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well technically those Women's Studies class aren't wrong at all. Technically men have done all those things

The only thing different and conveniently left out,is that the world has had bloody queens,and 99% of men were probably slaves anyway.

Actually a little aggression wouldn't be too horrible, so long as it isn't forced and it is in said woman's personality.Sort of like a frank,quiet relationship would be ideal for someone seeking a timid woman/man. Same dynamics apply to the desired workplace.

It's kind of saddening to see that this "third wave" "gender deconstruction" has made women even feel the need to always do something to appear intelligent and strong like anything else is weakness,it's sickening irony. That final quote says it all,not to mention how it seems to imply men are supposed to be changed.

It's all so vile and disgusting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well technically those Women&#8217;s Studies class aren&#8217;t wrong at all. Technically men have done all those things</p>
<p>The only thing different and conveniently left out,is that the world has had bloody queens,and 99% of men were probably slaves anyway.</p>
<p>Actually a little aggression wouldn&#8217;t be too horrible, so long as it isn&#8217;t forced and it is in said woman&#8217;s personality.Sort of like a frank,quiet relationship would be ideal for someone seeking a timid woman/man. Same dynamics apply to the desired workplace.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of saddening to see that this &#8220;third wave&#8221; &#8220;gender deconstruction&#8221; has made women even feel the need to always do something to appear intelligent and strong like anything else is weakness,it&#8217;s sickening irony. That final quote says it all,not to mention how it seems to imply men are supposed to be changed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all so vile and disgusting</p>
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		<title>By: Pelle Billing</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/05/how-misguided-feminism-prevents-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-6662</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelle Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 07:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ,

I've heard other men say the same thing. I think this is what Farrell calls adolescent feminism. Where women feel a sense of entitlement but not responsibility for their actions.

I hope it will pass, and I think it will. Men are adapting to feminism and in Sweden we are slowly seeing a return to more conservative values, such as marriage. In the meantime though, I think it's perfectly reasonable for men to look elsewhere, if they cannot connect to women in their own country in a meaningful way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard other men say the same thing. I think this is what Farrell calls adolescent feminism. Where women feel a sense of entitlement but not responsibility for their actions.</p>
<p>I hope it will pass, and I think it will. Men are adapting to feminism and in Sweden we are slowly seeing a return to more conservative values, such as marriage. In the meantime though, I think it&#8217;s perfectly reasonable for men to look elsewhere, if they cannot connect to women in their own country in a meaningful way.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/05/how-misguided-feminism-prevents-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-6645</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god I left the US.  I've had so many terrible experiences with mean, rude, callous women who treated me like dirt.  So many women who would not return phone calls, text messages, or even show up on pre-determined dates.  

Now I'm in Asia where most women are still ladies: feminine, sweet, nurturing and pleasant.  Not to mention, most women here are not fat and poorly dressed like most American women.

I hope to god the US falls and its influence (at least the feminism part) falters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god I left the US.  I&#8217;ve had so many terrible experiences with mean, rude, callous women who treated me like dirt.  So many women who would not return phone calls, text messages, or even show up on pre-determined dates.  </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m in Asia where most women are still ladies: feminine, sweet, nurturing and pleasant.  Not to mention, most women here are not fat and poorly dressed like most American women.</p>
<p>I hope to god the US falls and its influence (at least the feminism part) falters.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelle Billing</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2010/05/how-misguided-feminism-prevents-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-3062</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelle Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karyn,

Thank you for being open to reexamining your own beliefs. If you're interested in challenging your beliefs further, I invite you to read more of my blog posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karyn,</p>
<p>Thank you for being open to reexamining your own beliefs. If you&#8217;re interested in challenging your beliefs further, I invite you to read more of my blog posts.</p>
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		<title>By: hopeless_case</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopeless_case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I left university thinking men had been crushing women for most of history.  And well, this isn’t untrue but the problem is that for today, for the present, in relationship with various partners, when one carries resentment like that, it makes for an unhealthy situation
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Although I am about to take you to task, I really appreciate the honesty and goodwill with which you offer your comments.

You still think that "this isn't untrue"? You don't fault the women's studies classes for their view of history, only that women leave those classes with a burning resentment of men?

I think part of the reason for that resentment is that view of history, which Pelle's article is specifically refuting.</description>
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I left university thinking men had been crushing women for most of history.  And well, this isn’t untrue but the problem is that for today, for the present, in relationship with various partners, when one carries resentment like that, it makes for an unhealthy situation
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<p>Although I am about to take you to task, I really appreciate the honesty and goodwill with which you offer your comments.</p>
<p>You still think that &#8220;this isn&#8217;t untrue&#8221;? You don&#8217;t fault the women&#8217;s studies classes for their view of history, only that women leave those classes with a burning resentment of men?</p>
<p>I think part of the reason for that resentment is that view of history, which Pelle&#8217;s article is specifically refuting.</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this. As a woman, it was hard to read it. I took a bunch of "Women's Studies" classes in the 80s in university. At such a young age, I had a hard time seeing through the negativity. I left university thinking men had been crushing women for most of history. And well, this isn't untrue but the problem is that for today, for the present, in relationship with various partners, when one carries resentment like that, it makes for an unhealthy situation. Resentment breeds defensiveness and my take is that you are writing about some basic defensiveness and wall-building in women. We are afraid that if we are vulnerable all that horrible stuff in history will happen in our own personal lives. 

I have had several men ask me how to be men, how to be sexual with women without causes offense. And it breaks my heart. So much fear on the part of both men and women. 

So thank you for starting a conversation. It means progress is being made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this. As a woman, it was hard to read it. I took a bunch of &#8220;Women&#8217;s Studies&#8221; classes in the 80s in university. At such a young age, I had a hard time seeing through the negativity. I left university thinking men had been crushing women for most of history. And well, this isn&#8217;t untrue but the problem is that for today, for the present, in relationship with various partners, when one carries resentment like that, it makes for an unhealthy situation. Resentment breeds defensiveness and my take is that you are writing about some basic defensiveness and wall-building in women. We are afraid that if we are vulnerable all that horrible stuff in history will happen in our own personal lives. </p>
<p>I have had several men ask me how to be men, how to be sexual with women without causes offense. And it breaks my heart. So much fear on the part of both men and women. </p>
<p>So thank you for starting a conversation. It means progress is being made.</p>
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		<title>By: Lavazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lavazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 11:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here:

http://traditionalmarriage.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/for-the-marriage-minded-single-woman/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here:</p>
<p><a href="http://traditionalmarriage.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/for-the-marriage-minded-single-woman/" rel="nofollow">http://traditionalmarriage.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/for-the-marriage-minded-single-woman/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lavazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lavazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 11:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is some good advice to women who want a successful marriage:

http://traditionalmarriage.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/a-return-to-feminine%c2%a0wiles/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is some good advice to women who want a successful marriage:</p>
<p><a href="http://traditionalmarriage.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/a-return-to-feminine%c2%a0wiles/" rel="nofollow">http://traditionalmarriage.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/a-return-to-feminine%c2%a0wiles/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Open Question: Do you think feminism has ruined relationships?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open Question: Do you think feminism has ruined relationships?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 12:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hopeless_case</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopeless_case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 13:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what makes Zoe Lewis's observations problematic isn't that a lot of women treat men like she does (I'd be suprised if most women who consider themselves feminists would be that callous toward men, let alone women generally), but that her argument is widely believed (and not just by feminists).

There is a disconnect between people's operating philosophies and their stated philosophies.

I think the actual damage being done is more subtle than that.  It is more along the lines of preventing clear thinking and encouraging misunderstanding between the sexes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what makes Zoe Lewis&#8217;s observations problematic isn&#8217;t that a lot of women treat men like she does (I&#8217;d be suprised if most women who consider themselves feminists would be that callous toward men, let alone women generally), but that her argument is widely believed (and not just by feminists).</p>
<p>There is a disconnect between people&#8217;s operating philosophies and their stated philosophies.</p>
<p>I think the actual damage being done is more subtle than that.  It is more along the lines of preventing clear thinking and encouraging misunderstanding between the sexes.</p>
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