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	<title>Comments on: Misandry in the Media – part 7</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2011/07/misandry-in-the-media-%e2%80%93-part-7/comment-page-2/#comment-7670</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a prime example of misandry taken to the next level ...  A four year old boy gets suspended for sexual harrassment ...

http://voices.yahoo.com/4-year-old-boy-suspended-sexual-harassment-139309.html?cat=25

Another example taken too far ... 

http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/23/parents-sue-da-for-charging-their-6-year

The internet is full of stories like this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a prime example of misandry taken to the next level &#8230;  A four year old boy gets suspended for sexual harrassment &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://voices.yahoo.com/4-year-old-boy-suspended-sexual-harassment-139309.html?cat=25" rel="nofollow">http://voices.yahoo.com/4-year-old-boy-suspended-sexual-harassment-139309.html?cat=25</a></p>
<p>Another example taken too far &#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/23/parents-sue-da-for-charging-their-6-year" rel="nofollow">http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/23/parents-sue-da-for-charging-their-6-year</a></p>
<p>The internet is full of stories like this</p>
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		<title>By: Zoomorph</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2011/07/misandry-in-the-media-%e2%80%93-part-7/comment-page-2/#comment-6844</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoomorph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken. My wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken. My wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamen</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2011/07/misandry-in-the-media-%e2%80%93-part-7/comment-page-2/#comment-6843</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoomorph: I am pretty sure you're confusing Alver with Allan as Allan hasn't said anything about feminine  vs. masculine energy while Alver has said plenty. You'd be wise to be a bit more certain before you warn people off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoomorph: I am pretty sure you&#8217;re confusing Alver with Allan as Allan hasn&#8217;t said anything about feminine  vs. masculine energy while Alver has said plenty. You&#8217;d be wise to be a bit more certain before you warn people off.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoomorph</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2011/07/misandry-in-the-media-%e2%80%93-part-7/comment-page-2/#comment-6842</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoomorph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse: you just uncovered the reality under Allan's reasoning. He seems NOT to be aware of it. Brilliant...

Eagle33, beware. You might learn a lot from the experience, but it might not be pleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse: you just uncovered the reality under Allan&#8217;s reasoning. He seems NOT to be aware of it. Brilliant&#8230;</p>
<p>Eagle33, beware. You might learn a lot from the experience, but it might not be pleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: IceGiant</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2011/07/misandry-in-the-media-%e2%80%93-part-7/comment-page-2/#comment-6799</link>
		<dc:creator>IceGiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people are just psychotic. Psychotic people are everywhere. When a man performs incest and forced rape upon his daughter or younger female relative, do we scream "misogyny!"? Why not? (And according to my psychology studies, incest-rape is a very common thing in families, yes male-to-female. Yet no one screams 'misogyny'!) Damage to the female genitals are done. Yet no one claims "misogyny." 

What about, recently, a report of some guy waking up to have his penis cut off (strange story) since no one knows who did it or what gender it was, it might be male! So let's not call it "misandry" because it might not be female! xD

This is nonsense. What the psycho-woman did was insanely cruel. But to call it misandry seems inherently sexist: "She's a woman who did it to a man, so it's a man-crime!"

I believe both genders are equal (as humans) so if a man commits the same crime to another man, why isn't it considered "misandry"? Hmm......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people are just psychotic. Psychotic people are everywhere. When a man performs incest and forced rape upon his daughter or younger female relative, do we scream &#8220;misogyny!&#8221;? Why not? (And according to my psychology studies, incest-rape is a very common thing in families, yes male-to-female. Yet no one screams &#8216;misogyny&#8217;!) Damage to the female genitals are done. Yet no one claims &#8220;misogyny.&#8221; </p>
<p>What about, recently, a report of some guy waking up to have his penis cut off (strange story) since no one knows who did it or what gender it was, it might be male! So let&#8217;s not call it &#8220;misandry&#8221; because it might not be female! xD</p>
<p>This is nonsense. What the psycho-woman did was insanely cruel. But to call it misandry seems inherently sexist: &#8220;She&#8217;s a woman who did it to a man, so it&#8217;s a man-crime!&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe both genders are equal (as humans) so if a man commits the same crime to another man, why isn&#8217;t it considered &#8220;misandry&#8221;? Hmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pelle Billing</title>
		<link>http://www.pellebilling.com/2011/07/misandry-in-the-media-%e2%80%93-part-7/comment-page-2/#comment-6552</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelle Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eagle33 and Allan,

I've sent an email to you. If that doesn't work, then please contact me using the contact form on this site so I have an email address to you that works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagle33 and Allan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sent an email to you. If that doesn&#8217;t work, then please contact me using the contact form on this site so I have an email address to you that works.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle33</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 07:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allan:  "I hope to hear from you. We can communicate any way you choose–it’s up to you. "


    Please let it be e-mail.  I wonder if there's a way we can exchange e-mails in private.  


Allan:  "The media can really be troublesome, I agree. Negative comments and portrayals of men are just so common and difficult to counter. That stuff sets me off sometimes too."


     Which is why I'm hesitant to see Pixar's new movie "Brave" coming in 2012.  Because it follows the same old cliche of "Strong Female Character, Bumbling Male Comic Relife".  It broke my heart that they sold their soul to the devil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan:  &#8220;I hope to hear from you. We can communicate any way you choose–it’s up to you. &#8221;</p>
<p>    Please let it be e-mail.  I wonder if there&#8217;s a way we can exchange e-mails in private.  </p>
<p>Allan:  &#8220;The media can really be troublesome, I agree. Negative comments and portrayals of men are just so common and difficult to counter. That stuff sets me off sometimes too.&#8221;</p>
<p>     Which is why I&#8217;m hesitant to see Pixar&#8217;s new movie &#8220;Brave&#8221; coming in 2012.  Because it follows the same old cliche of &#8220;Strong Female Character, Bumbling Male Comic Relife&#8221;.  It broke my heart that they sold their soul to the devil.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Masculine Energy vs Feminine Energy

doing vs being

aggression vs surrender

analytical vs intuitive

concrete vs abstract

impatient vs patient

striving vs tranquil

rushing vs nurturing

assertive vs receptive

left brain vs right brain

thrusting vs receiving

organization vs synthesizing

logical vs creative

busy vs calm

hard vs soft

controlling vs allowing

The alleged masculine traits that could be construed as negative include the following:

aggressive
controlling
busy
rushing
impatient
concrete (as opposed to abstract)
logical (as opposed to creative)

It's not much of a stretch to claim that the first five, taken together, comprise a fair definition of the pejorative "asshole". Combine that with a skeptical interpretation of the last two traits of questionable value, and the above list of adjectives describse an asshole robot.

(I think that most people would consider abstract, creative thinking to be higher-level than concrete, logical thinking. If you are sufficiently logical and can grasp basic concrete facts, more logic and attention to detail won't do much for you. Competence in logical, concrete thinking, while not particularly common, is ultimately pedestrian. True creativity and abstract reasoning ability is much rarer and far more potent given a sufficient grasp of logic and facts.)

All of alleged female traits that could be interpreted as faults are really only faults in times of adversity. Thus, men are subtly portrayed as a necessary evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Masculine Energy vs Feminine Energy</p>
<p>doing vs being</p>
<p>aggression vs surrender</p>
<p>analytical vs intuitive</p>
<p>concrete vs abstract</p>
<p>impatient vs patient</p>
<p>striving vs tranquil</p>
<p>rushing vs nurturing</p>
<p>assertive vs receptive</p>
<p>left brain vs right brain</p>
<p>thrusting vs receiving</p>
<p>organization vs synthesizing</p>
<p>logical vs creative</p>
<p>busy vs calm</p>
<p>hard vs soft</p>
<p>controlling vs allowing</p>
<p>The alleged masculine traits that could be construed as negative include the following:</p>
<p>aggressive<br />
controlling<br />
busy<br />
rushing<br />
impatient<br />
concrete (as opposed to abstract)<br />
logical (as opposed to creative)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not much of a stretch to claim that the first five, taken together, comprise a fair definition of the pejorative &#8220;asshole&#8221;. Combine that with a skeptical interpretation of the last two traits of questionable value, and the above list of adjectives describse an asshole robot.</p>
<p>(I think that most people would consider abstract, creative thinking to be higher-level than concrete, logical thinking. If you are sufficiently logical and can grasp basic concrete facts, more logic and attention to detail won&#8217;t do much for you. Competence in logical, concrete thinking, while not particularly common, is ultimately pedestrian. True creativity and abstract reasoning ability is much rarer and far more potent given a sufficient grasp of logic and facts.)</p>
<p>All of alleged female traits that could be interpreted as faults are really only faults in times of adversity. Thus, men are subtly portrayed as a necessary evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eagle33, 

I hope to hear from you. We can communicate any way you choose--it's up to you. 

The media can really be troublesome, I agree. Negative comments and portrayals of men are just so common and difficult to counter. That stuff sets me off sometimes too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagle33, </p>
<p>I hope to hear from you. We can communicate any way you choose&#8211;it&#8217;s up to you. </p>
<p>The media can really be troublesome, I agree. Negative comments and portrayals of men are just so common and difficult to counter. That stuff sets me off sometimes too.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelle Billing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelle Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alver,

The reason I misinterpret you is that you have such a negative view on men. If you had come here and painted a more balanced picture of how the genders tend to behave then I likely would have responded differently.

I also think that any kind of list of "masculine vs feminine" is a dangerous tool. Somehow people want to take all kinds of opposites and label them either masculine or feminine but I don't think it works that way. I've been down that path and it didn't work.

This is not to say that we cannot identify differences between the sexes, nor that we cannot (perhaps) identify the two energies and penetrating and receiving/circular. But it's so easy to try to stuff to many things into the theory and it simply doesn't work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alver,</p>
<p>The reason I misinterpret you is that you have such a negative view on men. If you had come here and painted a more balanced picture of how the genders tend to behave then I likely would have responded differently.</p>
<p>I also think that any kind of list of &#8220;masculine vs feminine&#8221; is a dangerous tool. Somehow people want to take all kinds of opposites and label them either masculine or feminine but I don&#8217;t think it works that way. I&#8217;ve been down that path and it didn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>This is not to say that we cannot identify differences between the sexes, nor that we cannot (perhaps) identify the two energies and penetrating and receiving/circular. But it&#8217;s so easy to try to stuff to many things into the theory and it simply doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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